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No, this actually isn't a late April Fool's Joke!
(I didn't get to finalize the reporter's color palette, so I updated the previous blog post with a slight tweak and will be making this camera thingie the feature of the week)
Yes! As I was adding the second new Traveling Scholar challenge and scheming what kind of reward he should give, I came up with the idea of adding a form of camera that can be turned on/off just like sprinting and will slightly change interractions with NPC's.
Right now, it serves nothing more than a little extra fun and interractive way to finish certain side-quests related to photographing, yet leaves a lot of room for potential growth later on.
It's also possible the camera view could be customized with different unlockable "shells", like the Laquadia one displayed in the screenshot preview below.
Oh, and the sample is by no mean final, merely how it looks right this moment.
In other news, two additional side-quests have been added, with one indeed related to the camera and with Mayor Willheed getting a original design with his old one replaced.
But next week, the reporter should be good to go!
And next Tuesday also happens to be my birthday, it's almost an annual thing!
Happy early birthday!
ReplyDeleteOK Gabe you've opened up this can of worms and we need to go full on perverted with this one! We need a mechanic in which you can take upskirt panty shots or upskirt no panty shots who knows what the ladies like to put up there it'll be like loot box you never know what you're gonna get!
ReplyDeletedamn I really like the shell idea, keep up the good work gabe
ReplyDeleteI must say that Laquadia background is absolutely lovely to look at.
ReplyDeleteThere is such a thing as world building mate!
ReplyDeleteHaving an rpg with no side content(regardless if there is sex involved)wide be pretty daft.
*would not wide.
ReplyDelete"Lets be real, most of us" don't put words into other people's mouths, you can only talk for yourself so it's not "Lets be real, most of us are here for" it' more like "Lets be real, i'm here for".
ReplyDelete"There's a huge issue with how far apart some H-content is" first time i hear of this HUGE issue, in fact i would argue that what you're talking about is a non issue!
Your talking about pacing and for some reason your idea of good pacing is scenes in quick succession or as fast as possible if i understand you correctly.
Well that might be your idea of good pacing but in general the consensus that i've heard around the world is that that's not good pacing!
So to put it bluntly your talking out of your ass when you say "There's a huge issue with how far apart...", when there's no scenes there are illustrations and trading cards and vice versa, there is plenty of H-content paced out pretty evenly.
Also it just seems you have a problem with the very nature of an open world RPG, yes some players mite not get that that hidden scene, illustration or trading card the first time but that's your problem not the games!
As for the "And yes, world building is filler" that's just dumb!
Happy Early Birthday and Is it to late to get DevilHS to join the rest of the guys in Drawing CC for the game in the Gold Edition. Because i really think his art style fit the themes of the game
ReplyDelete"with someone that is hostile for literally no reason" Mate the only thing that can be construed as hostile is the "that's just dumb", the rest is simply responding to your comment.
ReplyDeleteYour attempts at spinning the narrative to make you look like your being attack are extremely bitch made!
As for the "but no ones asking for forced scenes in repetition" it's in direct contradiction to what one of your earlier statements imply "There's a huge issue with how far apart some H-content is"!
Furthermore i'll say it again the real issue you seem to have, is a problem with the very nature of an open world RPG, yes some players mite not get that hidden scene, illustration or trading card the first time but that's the players problem not the games!
And fine don't like that about RPGs, but you saying "There's a huge issue with how far apart some H-content is" is just wrong!
O and you first ignore my posts, ok!? OK!
It's been a bash!
ReplyDeleteHoly damn, Beliar, you do need to chill. You might think that you answered normally, but from the side you do look pretty agressive. Things like "don't put words into other people's mouths", "your talking out of your ass"and "and you first ignore my posts, ok!? OK!" don't sound nor friendly, nor critical-like.
ReplyDeletePersonally I tend to agree with RedPill more, since I too think that H-games are done first and foremost for H content. But as a writer I can understand the desire to add some in-world stories to show the world, ideas, scenarios and characters. But those should be thought-through very thoroughly on whether they are needed. Gabe is creating a very big game, without a lot of help code-wise and she needs to calculate her content that she adds according to its importancy to the world and to how much time it will take to add.
From different forums that I've read there is a general consensus that people dont like that there are a lot of side content, but main cast doesn't seem to have that much progression or development personal-wise.
The side content in an open world game is a good thing, but its not a "must have" feature. Especially when most of it is hidden behind grind or some realy hard-hidden secrets.
From personal expirience I can say that playing this game the first time "for fun" and second time with grind and with a guide-book (thank JoebobRiggs for handholder) are completely 2 different expiriences. First being fun but having very little content and second being extremely annoying, boring, frustrating and time-devouring, but having much more additional content that I actually liked (which are H-scenes and cards with porn, which is why I started to play the game in the first place).
The content being too far apart is actually a thing in this game, especially if you grind mobs and legendaries and just trying to 100% the game to get all of the H-content. ANd honestly, its not fun. Combat is very basic and when farming a high ranked monsters that you need 30 of them and 2 types of such, which makes it 60 battles ever one of them taking about 4 mintues each jsut because of how buffed the enemy is, and all you do is just attaking without any tactics (if it required tactics it would've been even worse)... its really bad. I dont know why Gabe thinks that grind is fun. I dont know why does anyone would think that grind is a fun thing in a H-game.
Its great that game has a lot of side content and stuff to do, but when you play a story-driven game, you care the most about the main storyline, and not some side-quests. They add value, but not nearly as much as the main story line.
Damn, I would prefer 1 questline with Kythie, that talks and shows player more about her and her personality, than to have 10 side quests that dont affect main story.
Surely, to each his own thing. Some people like main storyline, some people like grinding apperently, but we have to remember 2 main things when we talk about Gabe's work: 1 - Its a hentai game first and foremost, 2 - its huge and it takes a lot of time to do it, so the content that is done should matter a lot.
Personally I dont mind side quests, but when I was playing, by the end of the 3rd chapter I found myself very annoyed and the only thing that kept me playing was Kythie (who I love without end), so as long as there is going to be more content with her AND the main protagonist - I'm all good.
I normally dont commend, but I think that I cant hold my self back this time, and I know that I may "sound" (even though I write) aggressive, I will think of it as passiv aggressiv at best.
ReplyDeleteI agree more with Beliar and some of Phanta statements and nothing with RedPillBlues, I will soon go to bed, and thus, I will only give my short version.
I know we all have different opinions and ways to interpret, but I think a car is a transportation vehicle, some my say that it is also a symbol of freedom, I will counter, that the motorcykel was build for that.
I also think that those that dont like or criticise "Schindlers Liste" because it has to little action and war field scenes, is stupid, just because it is a war movie, dosent make it a action war movie.
And the same interpretation can be used to this sex/h (hot or hentai) game and porn games, the sex/h games has plot (story and boobs content), character with character/personality, and maybe open world, horror and so on.
Where porn games have a lot in common with porn, alas, a lot of sexy content, that is the essens of the game type.
So if you want porn/hentai (hentai in our western sens), then there are actual content for that, and if you want a game with personality and sexy content, then there is content for that as well... like this game.
I dont watch a Bond movie for the not shown sex scene, if I want to fap, I use porn (also animated and cartoon porn), so lets use logic, and use the labels that the language we use to better understand each other.
Porn is for fapping, but if you can use other material for that, good for you ... I will just give a disturbing option that Gates from Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid can use ...
Tv animals... good for him.
RedPillBlues
ReplyDelete"No ones going to change anyone minds here" You keep on saying stuff like that and stuff in the same vein "Im not going to sit here and go back and forth with someone", "Do both of us a favor and ignore my posts from now on"
Yet here you are, not taking your own advice!
Your words are meaningless and ring hollow when even the one who said them doesn't follow them!
"if Gabe thinks the wide gaps in scenes is fine then that's that" So your implying that the scenes need to be closer yet you were singing a different song not to long ago "no ones asking for forced scenes in repetition"
"the wide gaps in scenes" I refer you to one of my previous comments: "Your talking about pacing and for some reason your idea of good pacing is scenes in quick succession or as fast as possible if i understand you correctly." "when there's no scenes there are illustrations and trading cards and vice versa, there is plenty of H-content paced out pretty evenly.".
In short your gripe of the game does not reflect the reality of the game!
Phanta
"Holy damn, Beliar, you do need to chill." No i just need to be myself.
"don't sound nor friendly" Good, that was never my intent, my intent is to say what i think regardless of sounding friendly or not!
"people dont like that there are a lot of side content, but main cast doesn't seem to have that much progression" from what i can tell by reading different forums your meaning of "side content" is different from what this conversation started on.
The most prevalent complaint i hear about the game is that the women are getting fucked by the side content and not the player character which i agree with, more player character interaction in the H-content is always an improvement!
"The side content in an open world....but having much more additional content that I actually liked" your just arguing for a linear single player game and the only thing i can take from this is you don't like RPGs...Ok, shrug.
"The content being too far apart is actually a thing in this game" i seriously want to see how you play this game or RPGs in general because all the gripes you have are nullified by simply exploring new areas(finding illustrations or trading cards) and killing some monsters along the way.
"and not some side-quests. They add value, but not nearly as much as the main story line" tell that to skyrim the side quests are way better than the main storyline!
"Damn, I would prefer 1 questline with Kythie, that talks and shows player more about her and her personality, than to have 10 side quests that dont affect main story."
https://www.patreon.com/GabeWork/overview
Well then go and support Swegabe on Patreon, what you want is the goal to reach:
"Goals
$6,287 of $7,400 per month
The game will include unlockable sections where you get to play as some of the more important female roles in the game to tell more of their backgrounds, with each side story including or ending with an adult scene."
Karmas
"I also think that those that dont like or criticise "Schindlers Liste" because it has to little action and war field scenes, is stupid, just because it is a war movie, dosent make it a action war movie."
Now that's one hell of a metaphor, i'm gonna use it!
Yep, that's about what you've said so far amounts to.
ReplyDeleteOkay. Just for a quick protocl - I want you to understand that we are not arguing, we are discussing. Please don't take my words in a negative manner, because I'm all about discussion and voicing opinions. Theres a general idea in the Internet that when 2 peopel talk but they dont agree means that they argue - we dont. I'm just voicing my thoughts. So please dont take them too negatively, I simply want to have talk on the matter.
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"No i just need to be myself". I guess its okay, but you then you need to know that people don't enjoy talking with agressive people. I'm up for any kind of debate as long as a person who I talk with shows some kind of respect and restraint towards his opponent. I keep an open mind and I tend to change my mind on many things as long as I'm presented with logical and reasonable arguments. This is what I will do and this is what I hope you will do to me as well.
"Good, that was never my intent, my intent is to say what i think regardless of sounding friendly or not!" Well too bad, because you started and ended the conversation being aggressive and negative and this is why RedPills told you back that he doesnt see a sense in a discussion to which you said "Mate the only thing that can be construed as hostile is the "that's just dumb", the rest is simply responding to your comment." and "Your attempts at spinning the narrative to make you look like your being attack are extremely bitch made!". That was the point. You made it look like RedPills was giving a fake "fuck off", but in reality you did show him disrespect and I completely understand why RedPills didnt want to continue the discussion.
Please dont be like that. Lets have a constructive, respectfull and reasonable conversation without aggressive attitude from this point.
The part with "Main protagonist has too little scenes" is completely true point as well. But its not the only one. I pretty often see comments that say something like "one more character? How about we develop those that already are in the game?" and I can completely relate to that, since I do find the lack of the main characters progression a little bit disturbing. One way or another, reagardless of what you hear and I hear - both those problems exist. I dont know if we should fight over which one is more consistent to be heard about, since I think both of them are pretty critical and it would be great if those would be dealt with.
"your just arguing for a linear single player game and the only thing i can take from this is you don't like RPGs" oh man, I love RPGs. I am a consistant player of the Dragon and Dungeons in my local DnD library team, my favourite RPG of all times is Dragon Age Origins and DivinityOriginalSin, and I recently played the shit out of MonsterGirlsQuest:Paradox. Currently I'm developing a comicbook with entire my own universe and if I were to create a game, I would be doing it in MassEffect/DeusEx style of gameplay. I freaking love RPGs.
"i seriously want to see how you play this game or RPGs in general because all the gripes you have are nullified by simply exploring new areas(finding illustrations or trading cards) and killing some monsters along the way." I play them pretty straight forward - I follow the main storyline and whenever I see a sidequest I go do that, all of them. I usually tend to 100% my games, since I lvoe to hear stories that develoeprs put into their games and see all of the easter eggs they tenderly plan in in there - I love this stuff.
Now the question - why does it not work here? Because combat system in LoQO is an old style joke. Its not dynamic, its not interesting, its not innovative. Its plain simple, boring and monotonous. It does its job but not more. And when I have to kill 45 different monsters that have the same attacking pattern, every single one of them having me to kill 30! times to get 1 interesting legendary - its fucking insulting. To my brain and to my time especially. I played this game 100% playthrough for 34 hours 28/34 hours of which were just grinding mobs. Its ridiculous. And I was doing it with a handholder on a game+, so I didnt waist any time to find anything - I simply rocked through the content, yet it still took me that long to get msot of the stuff (I will share a screenshot of that time if you dont believe me).
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately most of the stuff that I discovered has nothing to do with a main plot. Why?
Now this is not a joke, but when you have an additional content in a story-driven game/TVshow that doesn't add to the main story, how does it called? That's right - a "Filler".
Before you say anything - I dont think that filler is a bad thing. Sometimes Fillers can be quite amazingly done, for example in Avatar the Airbender Book 2 Earth Episode 15 there is a filelr episode about a day in Basingse, where characters dont do a shit for the main storyline, but they are shown and portraid so freaking good, they show so much personality that I love this filler episode as much as I love the main story.
Everytrhing depends on the context that those fillers have, but when you have a filler story that doesnt add anythign nor to the main plotline, nor to the main characters, theres only 1 questio nthat comes up - why do this?
You will hate me but - I've played LoQO a month ago and I dont remember a single sidequest, escept for Sunny Sue's mail. ANd I rememebr that one jsut because of how sad I was that after I did it, there was nothing else after it. I was simply dissappointed.
"tell that to skyrim the side quests are way better than the main storyline!" you say that as if its a good thing. Noone cares about that storyline because its dull and uninspired, but if it had characters as Kythie I think I would care to go through it asap and only then do everything else. LoQO has it other way around - it has great main cast, interesting main storyline, and jsut some additional stories here and there that are mediocre at best. So why push mediocrity further when the main story is so good? And why hide all the additional stuff behind stupid, boring monotonnous grind? I'm totally okay with mini games - they do make game more diverse, but the mob grind is simply atrocious.
ReplyDelete"The game will include unlockable sections where you get to play as some of the more important female roles in the game to tell more of their backgrounds, with each side story including or ending with an adult scene"
1. I did not know that, but know I do. Thank you. I will consider doing that.
2. Too bad that such a thing would be hidden behind a paywall instead of hiding side content behind it. (Would love to see the experiment if Gabe would do that and see the consequences - pretty sure that this goal would have never been reached)
3. Why would that thing be hidden at all? Isnt it like, well, a general idea to include such a thing into a game one way or another? Like Character progression and everything?
Isnt the idea of any story/book/film is to develop its main cast as deep as possible and only then add to the surroundings? If we take MCU and have its world detaild but bare bone of the main cast.... I dont think it would ba a great idea.
In general jsut a little side not as a former game developer:
Whenever there is a game that is done by a studio, ALLWAYS the first thing that is done - is a main storyline. Script, dialogues, models, a shit tone of placeholders, mechanics being done as minimum as possible, but its done so that the main storyline could be played from start to finish ASAP. Only when a develoepr sees that the main story works, its fullfilling and inspiring, then and only then do they start adding to the surroudning world, because main storyline is allways the priority #1 and everything else that does not affect it - is a bonus, but never a priority.
Karmas, you're too deep man. I can't comprehend all of the wisdom of your words, sorry. =)
RedPills chose not to take part in it, since he doesn't see sense in doing so. I understand him tbh and relate to him.
But I do like to conversate about stuff, becasue I'm a pretty opeend guy and also I do ahve a hope that you might want to do the same.
ok heres a question. is Nipha the Sphinx going to be put in the game?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKum3NtLDg
ReplyDeleteYep, that's about what you've said so far amounts to.
ReplyDeleteYou've forgot to say polly wants a cracker, parrot!
ReplyDeleteSecondly you should really take those words and reflect upon yourself with them!
So call me when you know how to make shorter, more coherent, and more to the point sentences and not walls of messy disjointed babble!
I will reflect on them after you grow up.
ReplyDeleteSo how long will it take for your school to end? 10? 12? years?
I have written every single aspect into a different paragraph for you easy to read, I tried to stay as polite and as easy going as I could, I've spent about an hour to rephrase a lot of stuff just so you could take it easier and the least that you could do is to show minimum respect and give a comprehensive answer.
Instead you show your true colors and simply "Meh, lol, too long to read, reading is hard. I just want to shit people around because thats who I am and you better respect that".
While you make comments liek "RPG is not your peace of a cake" you yourself can't handle a 10 minute read?
You want shorter, more coherent, and more to the point sentences and not walls of messy disjointed babble?
There you go:
"You. Are. A. Joke.
More of a troll I guess. But a clown nontheless."
I will join RedPills from that point and simply ignore your fragile mind, since it cant even handle a simple text on the screen.
I'm just gonna butt in here a little and say what i think of this to people.
ReplyDeletePhanta you have such and air of thinking that you're smarter than you are, now Belair may have a foul mouth but looking past that he make better point than you or RPB ever did.
I'm with Beliar and Karmas and don't agree with anything you two said.
Phanta
ReplyDeleteHey remember when you were all like "Holy damn, Beliar, you do need to chill" how times change.
"the least that you could do is to show minimum respect and give a comprehensive answer"
I did the first time i responded to you, then you regurgitated the the same point yet again in your wall of messy babble!
It seems the only thing we agree on is that the more H content with the player character the better. But your still a fucking idiot on the rest of your points!
So ya it's been a bash!
Santa'sBigSack
Foul mouth, me!? Well I never!
That's interesting, but can lead to lots of additional work...
ReplyDeleteBy the way, I wonder if the game coukd be recompiled for Android? I heard it's more or less straightforward process for RPG Maker. In any case, it's possible to run via third-party rpg maker players, even though with glitches.
all I gotta say is ""There's a huge issue with how far apart some H-content is" first time i hear of this HUGE issue, in fact i would argue that what you're talking about is a non issue!" when there is a discord with 1k+ that talks about how much down time is in that game and how much filler there is... I think you're wrong m80, also you seem to be very educated on pacing of video games let me ask you, do you make any? you seem to know a really good lot about it man.. or well that's how you'd like it to seem
ReplyDeletedude is going on about people writing paragraphs when he was the one to do it to redpillblues big lol
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