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Geez, and I complained about the hot weather last week...that was nothing!
But as bad as things are, I'm still fortunate enough to not live in one of the large areas currently having wildfires spreading across the forests, something that seems to be happening to several EU countries right now with Greece getting the worst of it.
Summers just suck, that's about all that can be said.
In more uplifting news, what is this you see at the bottom...?
Remember a while back when I was talking about trying to see if I could have summons added to the game, in the way it works in the majority of Final Fantasy games? Well, that little sample is frame 64 out of Roseus' summoning animation! Although, don't be too excited since I've not had the time to see how it'll all work out in-game yet, I'll do that once I get the next beta out which will be released this weekend!
Speaking of which, I've made a lot of progress and is currently working on definitely the last cutscene of the Skalhalm arch, as I decided to extend it slightly beyond what was planned.
I also have two more mini-games planned, one might make it into the weekend beta, but no promises as it'll be the last thing I do after I know everything else is polished and taken care of! :3
And with that, we'll meet again next Tuesday while the newest beta hits this weekend!
I'm so excited! New Beta, New minigames, and summonings are close to being an actual thing in this game! If it works out, could adult Farah be a summon?
ReplyDeleteCould adult Farah be a summon, please... >D
DeleteOf course she will be! Surely riding in on a steed! Umm, or below a steed, probably is the more accurate description.
More like she'd leap atop whatever you're fighting and make THEM her steed for a bit...
DeleteMight be a little hardcore to draw a unique animation for every monster in the game you call in Farah for. x3
DeleteMaybe she's an uber-buff for the hero. He goes out of a fight for a few turns, we get a CG illo, and then he shows up with restored health and a bunch of other benefits thanks to the refreshing exercise and all the fresh milk he just drank while doing it.
DeleteI have to replay LOQO 2 now, I booted it up again to view some illustrations, but all that data from my old laptop didn't cross over to my new pc.
ReplyDeleteNot unless you port over the save, it won't!
DeleteYay, it worked, I can see the 3 secret illustrations again :-P
DeleteTsk tsk...should've figured. ;P
DeleteLol actually, I seem to still have a few blank spaces in the gallery, I should fix that right away.
DeleteNeat. When's the Nipha summon? :P
ReplyDeleteWas Nipha ever popular? xP
DeleteWell, I recently played through LOQO1 to completion (did the dark pharaoh path) and I was disappointed that despite picking every option that indicated I'd get to do the do with her after her quest, the quest ended without even a mention of it! She seemed like fun, so I wouldn't mind her joining the party in Origins. I could see her becoming a summon by finding an item that lets her briefly transform into a more mythological looking Sphinx for one big attack.
DeleteSide note, when looking her up on the wiki, it linked to a post you made back in 2014 (https://gabework.blogspot.com/2014/07/legend-of-queen-opala-origin-nipha-and.html) about her and Layla both being added to the game as romance options and a subsequent post (https://gabework.blogspot.com/2014/08/legend-of-queen-opala-origin-magihound.html) mentions the option for them both being added had won (thought there was some cheating so the real winner wasn't entirely clear). I was wondering what happened in regards to that?
But I also think that was also posted before I added like 20 more female characters... xD
DeleteBoth Nipha from LoQO and Latex from LoQO2 was planned to be added, but that was before the whole story was finalized.
So no Nipha, then? :( You better add her to that Frozen Continent game you mentioned was coming next then! :P
Delete(I don't know who Latex is; I wanna finish the post game stuff and do a Light Side playthrough for 1 before I try to to trudge through 2 and it'll probably be awhile since I've got other game priorities atm :P)
Well, never say never, the game isn't done yet!
DeleteFingers crossed!
Deletewell half the country is burning
ReplyDeleteYeeeeeah... D8
DeleteI can tell just by looking at her she's a girl that likes a lot of...vines on he meat!
ReplyDeleteAnyways here's something to cheer-ill you out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGD5C4wLsrs
Dood, that track is longer than most games!
DeleteAnd it has an immersive world with no loading screens!
DeleteIt seems that our firefighters help in Sweden. They can deal with the fire, I know it. Greetings from Poland. Życzę miłego dnia :)
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, I heard about that! Our own firefighters welcomed the polish like heroes. ^^
DeleteNice to hear that :)
DeleteThis is one of my biggest problems in this series, personally. There are very few scenes and they're widely spaced. I also don't think the glorified CG gallery collect acts as a proper buffer. While I think Origin's sidequests and collectibles do encourage exploration and are fun, this still isn't a game I'd ever recommend on it's adult good. Not to say the adult content is bad, it's just so poorly paced that it sucks the eroticism out of the game as a whole.
ReplyDeleteIt's a double-edged blade, I'm always hesitant to add scenes that doesn't include the protagonist in this game because people hate that and seem to almost prefer having no extra scenes at all than ones that doesn't include the main character.
ReplyDeleteAnd its much harder to find good situations where he can be added into the scene while having it make sense from a story perspective.
At the end of the day, I'll likely add more "filler" scenes without the protagonist, even if people don't want them...but let's not kid ourselves, how many other adult games out right now has over 30 unique CG Scenes in the same game? ;)
(That's more than both previous LoQO games combined!)
I understand the want for more filler/random scenes but playing simply some of the betas before ep 1's release I already experienced as many scenes as I did through almost the entirety of Loqo 2. So I am pretty satisfied, although it would be cool to have a bit more now. That bath area in Kahr could use some love :)
ReplyDeleteAs far as people hating scenes that don't include the main character, I feel that's mostly because of Loqo 2. There was a lot of space between sex scenes in that game, and when we finally got to them, they often didn't include the MC. Even though Opala was among the first to join the party, Farah and Osira are the ones able to have sex with him first. And that was only after the possible gangbang scene for Farah and Osira getting used by the bad guys against her will, twice. Meanwhile Opala after so much teasing gets a possible lesbian scene and assured scene where she gets screwed by a minotaur and surrenders to the pleasure while apologizing to the MC, and this all by act 3 of the game I think. It felt like the MC got cheated out of sex a bunch, kind of like NTR or cuckolding.
HOWEVER, Loqo origins is not only balanced giving the MC plenty of sex scenes, but the problem of being left out of sex is just about erased now that you added the tent minigame allowing us to have sex with the (available) girls whenever. So I think it's pretty safe to add filler scenes without the protagonist in this game, especially since he's already pretty easy about letting Teen Farah explore. The only issue I have is with certain characters like Gabrielle, while we can romance her and she's been part of the party for a long time, we haven't gotten a single scene with her and the protagonist. So adding more scenes with her when the MC hasn't had a chance makes me feel sad. But that's just me. Other than that I think you've done a good job with balancing the scenes.
Personally I don't mind as much, I've always seen LOQO as a really good RPG that just happens to have porn in it. So the downtime is okay.
ReplyDeleteI think it does suck that not many people are for the non MC stuff, since if Gabe wants to add non MC scenes, Gabe should add them. My own personal opinion, if it's a monster then sure the scene is fine I actually prefer that over the MC.
While I do like the sprite scenes, its not at all comparable to cg scenes. I would much prefer a replayable cg scene to the sprites.
ReplyDeleteAlso regarding sensitivity since 2, it kinda makes sense that people will be concerned as it really seemed pointless having a male mc or an mc at all in that game and just play as Farah or Opala.
I lean much more on the side of MC scenes and was one of the many rather annoyed at the Kythie scene playing despite choosing not to educate, so as long as the game continues on as its been to this point I'll be happy. And if the majority (not sure if this was decided by a poll or whatever) wants MC scenes and instead other stuff gets artwork of course they would be pissed as its taking away effort that could go towards the stuff they want.
@Cian Browne I do feel bad about Gabe not being able to add the scenes she wants to add if it doesn't involve the MC. Honestly, I think she's found a good balance.
ReplyDelete@123kid I was annoyed at the Kythie scene too since I also chose not to educate her but that's been fixed now. And I think the reason it may not feel like there is enough MC scenes because for the last few betas the scenes we got haven't been MC scenes (minus the tease for mhu'tiki). So it feels like there isn't enough when really he has a lot of screen time in the overall game.
Gabe we don't want random scenes that don't include the main character because there is no reason to do that. He has a harem of women with him. Gabelle has no scenes, femalekite has no scenes, only young opala has a decent number. The filler scenes should be the girls who obviously want to bang the main character, sneaking sex with him along the way or quests the main character can do at night do seduce them. Why aren't you just using these characters we all want scenes with to fuck the main character? I honestly don't get it, it makes perfect sense from a story perspective with how these girls are written. You even have a system of them liking you, use it for scenes we go for. Different positions with these girls, 3 way scenes with the girls, hell you could have let the main character intervene with lalya and gotten some reward sex because you stopped her from getting raped, instead of helping out mas at the beach that would have been a perfect scene for the main character to fuck her.
ReplyDeleteWe want content with mc character and the girls, and I can't fathom why we don't use the fact that they're in the camp to get some sex scenes along the way when they're all so horny. This is what literally every porn game does with a male main character in this situation, it's honestly not complicated. Please don't start screwing us over by just having the girls fuck other characters when it's illogical for how the game is being played out. Please just use the romance system you have in place and the camp to give us more scene instead.
I should also note that you already have A LOT OF images you find which are things that don't invovle the main character. So why would you deny us the only reason to have a male main character but cutting out scenes that would be included in any other porn game.
ReplyDelete@Gabe. I agree with what is clearly the majority opinion based on polls and these comments that you shouldn't more random filler scenes that don't involve the player. As for story excuses, you could do dates in towns with the girls, seduce them at the camp, or they could seduce you as the story goes on. The relationship system that exists so far doesn't seem to do anything so you could start using it to get scenes. The girls already pretty clearly need little excuse for a reason for the main character to have sex with them, so I don't get why this is the case and you think we need more scenes with other men. If just use the letters and pictures we find for nonplayer stuff, it's already nothing but that anyways.
ReplyDeleteThe sheer number of content that doesn't involve the main character has always been the biggest weakness and complaint of these games. There are always a bunch of girls the main character never has scenes with even when they basically say hey lets have sex. I mean is the issue that you have too many different main characters for the artists? Because if it would be fine to cut down the number.
@Billy Bob @Jackrider I have to disagree with you both there. Look I'd like a lot of scenes with the MC too, especially with characters like Gabrielle who is overdue and Kythie who if anybody were to be with her, I'd prefer it to be the MC. And using the relationship system and do dates and stuff would be nice. But this is not a harem romance game or a dating simulator. This isn't that type of game. In this game incest, cheating, polyamory, prostitution, bestiality, monster sex, and non consensual sex happen ALL THE TIME. The character the title is named after has a sexual relationship with her pet panther and no matter how much she loves the MC of whatever game it is, she isn't giving that panther up so you're automatically sharing her. The other main girl of Origins, young Farah, was not a virgin before she met the MC and got a donkey off in front of a live audience. She will grow into a woman that even though she had a husband who she loved, he could not completely satisfy her and (with his permission) would allow countless men to use her mouth and ass. She fucks a horse and has a horse for a son who she ALSO wants to fuck. When first meeting her in loqo 2 she was so starved for sex that she was perfectly fine with letting a bunch of bad guys gangbang her. And one of the main antagonists in these games, Osira, fucks monsters for power, fucked her father for power, and dreams of having her mother and sister fucked by monsters constantly in the middle of egypt out of revenge and to inspire fear. And this is just with those characters. In the world this game takes place in, there are more extreme situations, many leading to darker endings.
ReplyDeleteNow in Loqo 1 and 2, there was a shortage of scenes featuring the MC and Loqo Origins has fixed that. There's more scenes in Origins than in both games combined and the majority of them feature the MC, some even being determined by the MC so we can avoid certain non mc scenes if we want. And the tent minigame can allow us to screw the girls whenever and however much we want. Gabe is definitely not screwing us over. But this is just not a game where only the MC can screw the girls.
@omeglock
ReplyDeleteYou have a party of women that want your dick and are the only male around. It's by default a harem situation, and origin hasn't really fixed the shortage of scenes much at all. The main character still doesn't have very many scenes, and they're not fleshed out. Layla has no scenes, she could easily be gotten as a made and given scenes as she servants you at a house. Masquerade has no scenes, easily could just be captured after the next assassination attempt, Gabelle has no scenes, you have access to her at any time and seems willing in general.Both Ra'Tiki and Mhu'Tiki have both basically delcared you their mate, confirmed in the case of Mhu'Tiki. She is literally willing always, there are a lot of scenes that could be used with her. Young opala is basically your sex slave and is also always willing. Then there now kythe who literally smells dick and wants it, that easily could have been a scene with the main character instead of horse and still could be. There is no real excuse not to use the main character to fill out the game with sex scenes. All of these characters easily play off of each other to do so.
Secondly as for it not being a dating game, it literally has a relationship system which is used for dating game elements.
No one said anything about the girls being virgins thats completely irrelevant, but no matter how you look at this. It's a harem game more or less and the game has a male pc. 80 to 90% of the scenes should be about the player when it has this many girls in it and thats clearly what people expect and want considering the bitching about it.
Like I and others have stated there is also no reason for it not to be, because it is full of plot relevant and character personality relevant reasons it to be focused that way. The main character is clearly very lewd considering you literally can just demand sex from characters as rewards. So the mc himself has the perfect personality to fuck any random girl he meets.
Basically none of what you said is an argument.
Umm half the scenes in the game feature the MC. And certain scenes without him in it are set in motion by him, left to the player's choice. The majority of the scenes are with the MC and the game isn't even complete. That's a HUGE improvement over the past few games. And Gabe is going to go back to previous parts of the game to add scenes. We are basically just arguing over the order in which Gabe decides to add them.
ReplyDeleteThe kythie scene was fixed, it only shows up if let Kythie be taught by Mhu'tiki. Layla is gonna be added to the castle, it just hasn't happened yet. Mhu'tiki is getting another scene already and is one of the characters available for the tent minigame. The only valid complaint is for Gabrielle.
Persona 5 has a relationship system that leads into dating. Persona 5 is not a dating game. Plenty of games have relationship systems that can lead into dating game elements but that doesn't make those games dating simulators.
Half is too little for the player assuming thats even correct, and regardless the total is very small compared to other games of the genre. Secondly we aren't arguing regarding the order, I'm arguing against the logic of well we need more "filler" scenes that don't involve the main character when the total that involves the main character period is already very small and most of the girls either don't have a scene or it's just one scene total. If Gabe is going to add "filler" scenes, then they should still be with the main character as the focus. Gabe seems to think that you need some sort of epic quest to fuck one of the girls or something, when that has never been the case. The whole thing is very simple. Minor quests to get scenes, some of them using the relationship system that does nothing at the moment, or stuff can just happen as per usual as you go along. But there are shitloads of in story reasons that make sense for the main character to get several scenes with the women he travels with.
ReplyDeleteAlso it's not an argument that because it's an improvement over the other games that it's still not a problem. It's still a major problem, it was just worse in the other games. Porn games like this have at least 3 to 4 scenes where the player fucks the girls in various positions not even including 3 ways. This game isn't close to that yet.
Because the game already has so many girls in it, the content is going to be thinned already, which means it needs more focus scenes where the main character fucks these characters. Which is the point of a male player character unless it's a cuckold game, most people don't play these type of games to just be a voyeur that defeats the entire purpose.
I mentioned the kythie scene as an example of something that could have been "filler" and involved the main character fucking the character and fit in perfectly.
Also Gabirelle isn't the only valid complaint, one scene for named characters that travel with you isn't remotely enough. Then there are all of the other ones we get no scenes with, yet they fuck other people instead of the main character taking advantage of their interest in him.
Persona 5 is the very definition of a game with dating elements dude. Thats literally what dating elements are, you're not understanding my point. I never said this was a dating game, but it has dating elements that perfectly fit in with a system to get sex scenes in story with the characters.
I think what would help with a lot of this gabe getting some help with creating the game to help it get made faster, add more content in general, all of which would allow the patreon to easily break 10k.
Also as stated earlier, the illustrations and paints are already nothing but content that doesn't involve the main character. It can just be stuck there, the in game scenes should be focused on the main character seducing/being seduced and doing the fucking. Thats the entire point of playing as a guy surrounded by horny women with a bunch of horny women looking to get fucked.
ReplyDeleteThat actually brings up an interesting question, what will the affection or heart points eventually do? If its just a combat bonus that'll be lame, but I can't see what else they would do.
ReplyDeleteI actually stopped playing the Loqo games because of the forced cucking; I mean, in every game of the series, the MC gets cucked and is basically made fun of at every turn, which I find frustrating as fuck. If I wanted to play a sissy or cuck game, I would, but they are not to my liking, so I do not. And that's what has happened to the Loqo series over the time: it became a cucking game, where the MC gets screwed over everytime (Eclipse, I'm looking at you), and this made me quit the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteA pity, really, because I loved the setting and characters, the whole art-collecting gimmick, and all that jazz; too bad the game became toxic all too soon.
Sorry for the long rant, but I had to take it out of my system.
I don't recall the MC being made fun of at every turn. I will say the in Origins the MC gets plenty of action. It's not toxic like you say.
Delete@Billy Bob Yes, Persona 5 has dating game elements. But it is NOT a dating game. There is a difference. Persona 5 is a JRPG and a dungeon crawler that has dating game elements. It's the same thing with Loqo Origins. It has a relationship system allowing you to have a harem, but it is not a harem game. The MC has been getting a lot of action but the girls he's with and the world they exist in make it so that the MC is not gonna be the only guy to get to have sex with these girls.
ReplyDelete@123kid Well the system hasn't been finished yet. But it's probably gonna be like Loqo 2 where full hearts points lock the girls in as a girlfriend or harem member leading to a special sex scene. That probably not gonna be finished for awhile.
ReplyDeleteIn the 2nd game the points only counted towards the royal trio, it meant nothing to gain points and buy gifts for the other girls. Other than maybe something to do with the ending or a bonus cg scene if you max the love points (which I can't see being offered) I don't know what else it would symbolize. Young Farah already seems rather loyal and in love based on the convo before you go into the temple.
ReplyDeleteI don't recall girls other than the Trio being romanceable in loqo 2. I don't know how Young Farah treats you at the temple if you aren't nice to her throughout the game.
ReplyDeleteOnce again Omegalock, you're the only man in a group of girls it's by default a harem, secondly it does have dating sim elements which would endear the girls to having sex with you, 3rd because the main character is fucking them, there would be no reason for them to fuck anyone else. Also no the main character has no been getting a lot of action. He barely gets any scenes past the start of the game.
ReplyDeleteHe barely gets any scenes, huh...?
ReplyDeleteMain character is in 8 out of 13 Full Scenes.
Main character is in 5 out of 15 Mini-Scenes.
Just counting scenes out from the gallery (not cg) I came to 9 MC scenes which is not taking into account multiple choices and 14 scenes not containing the MC.
ReplyDeleteAnd even if the numbers are 8 out of 13 that is 61% and 5 out of 15 is 33% and if you add Mini-Scenes together with full scenes you come to 13 out of 28 which is 46%. So actually less than half the scenes in the game not counting sprite stuff is MC related at all.
Sure, because full scenes and mini-scenes are the same size and have the same amount of work/illustrations, despite their description.
ReplyDeleteGabe that isn't actually a lot. People wouldn't get angry if they had 3 to 4 scenes with every girl before they randomly get scenes with other men. What actually has been happening however is that horses, dogs and everyone else keeps getting scenes before the main character.
ReplyDeleteFemale kythe happens, someone fucks her first. Somehow. Gabelle, HAS 3 SCENES none with the main character, layla also no scenes with the main character, the list goes on.
Also 5 out of 15 mini scenes? That is a small amount of of the total scenes. Gabe. Why aren't we the player getting the majority of scenes here? The main character is surrounded by willing women and he barely has content with them.
This is what I mean, the argument is stupid.
ReplyDeleteIf I removed all the scenes that didn't had the main character in them, you'd be down to 13 scenes with only the protagonist getting all the action...that would be 100% of the scenes and still be more content than what LoQO2 had across the entire game.
Are you really saying no additional scenes at all is better than ones without the protagonist?
And let me point out, no one of these females are considered your wives (yet), they are your oversexualized allies with teen Farah being closest to a girlfriend.
And how many scenes does she have with others? NONE, if you as the player decide that's how you want to play it.
@gabe. All you have done is prove our point. The player has less than 50% of the total CG with him. The literal focus of the game has the least content, thats insane. In a game where you play a male character, 80% of the content should be focused around him fucking these women, and claiming that mini scenes aren't as long as full cg isn't argument when you have so much focus on mini scenes and little to none of them have the player character in them. Mini scenes are still drawn cg that people want, and there is more of that than any other in the game, and not even close to half of it isn't with the main character. Player character doesn't get enough content at all. Why aren't you letting the player have scenes and mini scenes with these characters? The player has access to them, the girls show interest. You have this relationship system, the character has access to them at camp. You thousands of ways of the player getting scenes with these characters, both mini scenes and full scenes.
ReplyDeleteTLDR Mini scenes are most of the content and the player gets almost none of it. They're drawn CG scenes thats not even remotely balanced or fair. The player character has the last amount of content in the game even though thats who we play.
Why do you keep saying no addition scenes Gabe? Why doesn't the main character just have more scenes in general? Why is there some arbitrary fixed number of scenes with the main character? Gabe we want more scenes, we just want them with the main character.
ReplyDeleteYou don't seem to see the obvious here. Addition scenes can happen with the main character. All of these girls have multiple holes, positions and etc we haven't gotten to use yet, and not only that there are several girls we have literally no scenes with.
"Are you really saying no additional scenes at all is better than ones without the protagonist?"
ReplyDeleteCould you explain this logic? People are asking for more scenes with the protagonist, since we have so few and the mini scenes overwhelm the total amount of content at this point by a lot and he gets 5 out of 15. That isn't balanced.
As for none of them being considered our wives, Mhu'Tiki literally calls us her husband and Ra'Tiki seems to be trying to be our mate.
I think the confusion is that Gabe doesn't realize we don't want filler scenes to not have the main character and want more mini scenes to also be with the main character. For example that beach mini scene, main character is literally right there why is he helping Masquerade who grabbed his dick and was impressed fuck someone else. Why didn't the main character just fuck her instead. It makes perfect sense in story for him to do so, another example Kythe and the horse, instead of the horse being the only option, why wouldn't she send Kythe the main characters way instead. Easily makes sense, Kythe knows you're her master, years and years of companionship. Gabrielle is full of examples in general of stuff that could have been more mini scenes with the main character.
ReplyDeleteBasically Gabe doesn't get that we want most of the full scenes to be with the main character and most of the mini scenes to be with the main character. The stuff going on with Laquadia is what it is. Main character isn't around for that, hopefully we can save her and make her ours also in the future.
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ReplyDeletePersonally, I don't care who's in the scenes, I just want them to be less paced out and some repeatable CG ones. They could all not include the MC for all I care as long as they're well written and drawn.
ReplyDeleteDo what you want, Gabe. I may have my criticisms and personal wishes, but it's your game and you're doing a damn fine job with it. Keep up the awesome work.
ReplyDeleteYou people don't understand I can only work on one thing at the time, it's a loop that always make someone disappointed because I'm not doing what they want.
ReplyDeleteIf I keep working on adding more scenes, you have people complaining there isn't any more story content.
If I work on the story, you have people complaining there isn't any more scenes.
And no, I won't compromise the story, just so I can shove in some random scene here and there with the main character that adds nothing to progression.
The problem is you want everything. Now. You don't realize I may be putting some things on hold on purpose so I can get the main game done out of the way first before adding the majority of the optional stuff...and even when I do add optional stuff, people complain its something no one asked for.
Gabe you didn't answer my question. Also we are clearly fans or we wouldn't be here. We're asking for a balanced ratio of content.
ReplyDelete5 out of 15 isn't balanced. I would expect the main character get 3 scenes to everyone 1 scene that doesn't involve him. Why can't the player character have mini scenes?
Gabe you did a poll on this on your blog. The fans obviously preferred scenes with the main character otherwise that option wouldn't have won.
ReplyDeleteYou guys are acting super entitled. It might be a good idea to take a step back, calm down, and look at how your words come across.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't think asking protagonist content is being entitled. He has the least amount of content in the game regarding cgs. If the numbers had been. 8 out 13 full scens and 9 or 10 of of 15 mini scenes. Then people wouldn't have much right to complain, but as it stands people have a lot of right to complain about this right now. It's a major issue with the game.
ReplyDeleteWith the amount of scenes the protagonist has already and the game not being finished, there is no reason to complain about the scenes. Not on the level you guys are. You're acting as if he's had no scenes at all when in reality he's had about half the scenes in the game.
ReplyDeleteIt's not what you're asking, it's how you're asking it. Having a complaint is one thing, but acting self righteous (seriously, look at your phrasing) and antagonizing Gabe about it only makes you look bad and serves to undermine your own goal.
ReplyDeleteOmega scroll up, we have already shown that the protagonist has the least amount of content, and there are several updates in very long periods of time where it's just mini scene after mini scene after mini scene where the protagonist gets nothing. As stated before, content wise it started really strong with young Farah and Laquadia, then it was just mostly mini scenes where the main character isn't involved. Content wise the player character should be the majority of it with in game scenes as the game goes along. I'm not against optional non progonist content, I'm against it being the majority of mini scenes and scenes in general. Which it currently is.
ReplyDeleteDJ quinn. Text comes off as more hostile than it really is, my intention has never being antagonizing. Gabe has stated confusion regarding what players want and the complaints people have. Well I'm trying to explain them. Gabe also makes a lot of statements on this that don't really make sense, like the whole removing non protagonist content. As long as it's optional no one really cares, the issue is how unbalanced mini scenes are against the protagonist.
"Text comes off as more hostile than it really is" Have you considered that that may be part of why you're not getting anywhere? Also, that maybe the comment section of Gabe's blog might not be the best place to pitch this argument or that you might need to do more than just try to rhetoric if you want to reach your desired result? You're asking something big of Gabe that would require an overhaul for a large game already more than halfway through development with only a single person on the development team. You're words on their own aren't going to be effective, especially when the person you're trying to convince isn't receptive to the idea.
ReplyDelete@Dj Quinn
ReplyDeleteIf you can't propose criticism of the game on its comment section where could you direct it? It's not asking something big its a confusions as to why the game has changed so much from what it was originally present as which was scenes with Devon not others. When should he ask, after the game is finished? I may be assuming, but I think everyone who was commented like this game, but in the recent updates it has changed quite a lot from the first couple put out and many missed chances for scenes with Devon only for another scene without Devon to be put right after it.
@ Billy BoB No, you didn't show anything. The MC has 13 out of 28 scenes when including Full and mini scenes. That's far from him being the one with the least amount of content. And once again, you're complaining about the order of scenes. Just because we get a period of miniscenes without the protagonist doesn't mean he has the least amount of content. ESPECIALLY when the game is not finished and Gabe is going to revisit past areas in the game for more scenes.
ReplyDeleteYou can post criticisms anywhere, but you shouldn't expect to make too much of an impact as one random fan lobbing you're criticisms at Gabe and expect them to to be immediately change their mind.
ReplyDeleteDJ quinn well I can't talk to Gabe in person and comments in the blog exist for this reason. Also nothing I've stated requires a large overhaul of the game, it's literally just add more mini scenes with the protagonist.
ReplyDeleteOmegalock. Actually 123kid did, it's basic math and 13 out of 28 out is a very small number in a game where you play a man surrounded by women. Also once again you bring up the order thing, but it isn't the order. It's literally an issue with the mini scenes being a giant focus yet the protagonist getting no content with them. You can even read Gabes post about this mentioning we needing more filler content yet Gabe doesn't get that those filler content mini scenes could be scenes with the main character.
But instead of delivering scenes for the MC we are teased with the idea of them only for another random pointless scene to go in its place. In the prison why no scene with Masquerade, why no scene with the Harpy Queen after meeting her despite her wanting to, why no scene with the Pirate despite that being an agreement for releasing her? Why does that not fit into the story logically but the Pirate Lady joining Gabrielle in the tavern challenge. Why is it ok to add scenes like Kyhie with the horse which add nothing, but scenes that would mean nothing for the MC are out of the question.
ReplyDeleteI don't mean this as mean or antagonistic, but we should all be able to be adults and rationally come to an understanding and be open and honest with one and another.
But you also have to keep in mind who you are in relation to Gabe and how that affects the impact and effectiveness of your words.
ReplyDelete@123kid It is honestly frustrating that we have no scenes with Gabrielle yet she has 4 scenes with other characters, and even just one scene with her in the protagonist doesn't really make up for the 4. Then there is the scene where they rape layla with a horse and for some reason the main character does nothing about it. Then there is how often what happens is this new girl shows up, and the dog, or some random other person gets a scene with them first. This game begs for mini scene 3 ways with girls at camp and other variations.
ReplyDelete@DJ Quinn Speaking for myself I would be a customer and fan as I truly enjoy her game. But if her vision on the game has changed from what it once was I would like to know, as I'm only here for Devon scenes and if she has no interest in those why not make the pc a female character so she can make more scenes with monsters and the girls. It just leads to false expectations if Devon is just meant to be a voyeur all game. Many girls and one guy would make one assume it would lead to a situation where the girls fuck the one guy not the girls go and fuck random side characters while the male doesn't.
ReplyDelete123kid or She could make a game where the protagonist is a monster or shapeshifter. I'm surprised Gabe didn't actually do a shapeshifter protagonist. Could turn into any type of monster, etc.
ReplyDeleteBut I overall agree, you don't go into a game with a male protagonist and expect the main character to get less than half of the total cgs with him.
@Billy Bob But 13 scenes out of 28 is not a small number. It's just 1 scene away from being half and it's still a large amount. And it really does all come down to order since Gabe has said she will go back to add more scenes in the future. The scenes Gabe decided to add now are simply ones without the MC. That doesn't mean the MC has the least amount of content, and he will have more in the future.
ReplyDelete@123kid Maybe no masquerade scene but we got a mhu'tiki scene WITH the MC. The Kythie scene is optional if you choose to not teach her. The Pirate scene will obviously happen later. This is what I mean about order.
It is a small number for a game where you play a horny male, it's actually less than half. That is a small number of the total, especially when you realize that most of the scenes in the game are going to be mini scenes and so far the main character has only been in 5 out of 15. So main character isn't going to be all of the full scenes, and isn't even close to half of the mini scenes which will be the majority of the scenes in the game. That means he's getting a very small amount of the content.
ReplyDeleteAlso we don't know if we will get a pirate scene, most of the time the main character in these games doesn't get any scenes with the side characters. Play the other games.
@The mighty dong, thats what I mean really. It was mentioned it didn't make sense from a story prospective, but how doesn't it when the women literally give the main character an opportunity. There are so many examples of scenes like that.
ReplyDeleteIt didn't have to be down right then and there, it could have just been meet me later on etc then became a scene. But frankly, I have my doubts that the girls care that much about exhibitionism. Farah fucks a donkey in a front of a lot of people, Gabrielle drinks cum in front of a lot of people and fucks in front of a lot of people. That isn't exactly uncommon with your characters.
ReplyDeleteWell we've had scenes like that before, and I don't see why the renegade aligned Devon would care. We had Opala fucking her panther in front of everyone, seems kind of prudish for the MC not to or for anyone in the group to care about him doing that and I'd never call them prudes.
ReplyDeleteWell I can see Gabes point if the logic is those characters now don't want to see him fucking other people outside of the group, the issue these characters are still fucking other characters outside of the group to. So it's a bit of a mixed message though. If it is the girls are falling for him then thats fine. But then mini scenes where they go fuck other people become a plot hole after this point.
ReplyDeleteI just want some more protagonist x Laquadia content, the main character bullying her with his dick and their interactions as he teases her and fucks with her pride are my favorite parts of the game. Laquadia personality exists to become a toy for a the protagonist. Orisa can fit this role too, I suppose. I like Laquadia more though. We need to show up and kick that bull guys ass, steal his wife and show who him who the superior male is by making Laquadia cum harder with us.
ReplyDeleteIm fine with how the scenes are, in fact I would like more bestiality (and no I dont count beastman protag as a beast they are furries) more Gabrielle getting fucked by Kythe (even though he's gone for now). I love the idea of prostituting young Farah and maybe the other girls at some point. I liked how in the newest Mhu'tiki scene they talk about setting up a gloryhole for her to please the workers at the castle, I hope that becomes a thing. I want to rape Osira with the MC and send her mom to a horse farm to become a broodmare. I enjoy the Opala series because of its focus on bestiality, rape, and monsters; the monsters are meh to me though. I would hate for Gabe to change the Opala series to a more vanilla state, where the protag gets all of the scenes and then maybe 1 or 2 without him; that everybody seems to be clamoring for in these comment sections. Which is why I'm commenting at all since I want Gabe to know I enjoy the game as is (though I would like more bestiality).
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